Does the App forget my record?

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Hi,

I have accomplished a couple of progressions, including pullups for example. I recently started a new journey and now I have to redo kipping swings (starting at 4) or knee jumps (starting at 4). Having done all that already, it feels a bit ridiculous to redo that. I’d rather work on progressions that help me to move foreward. What can I do?

Cheers,

Uwe

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Hey, you can just “do” 20 pull-ups (at single exercises) and tell the coach that you did it with excellent technique. If that doesn’t work do some other stuff (like gods if they include them) with the exercise so the coach will learn again that you already know them.
Hope that helps

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Thanks gameonplayer. I am doing that and I still get this weird skill progression. I guess my DAS is high enough to believe that the coach should ‘know’ that . However, it feels a bit like ‘catastrophic forgetting’ in training the AI in the back…

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Hey Uwe :wave:

This has been answered a few times already on here so I appreciate it could be clearer.

Regarding looping around Skills again. In any new training cycle you can get asked to do exercises that you might already have completed previously, particularly if you have not worked on them for some time. Even professional athletes spend a lot of time working on the technique of exercises that they have mastered. The Skill Progression is dedicated time to really focus on your technique, and no matter what level an Athlete is, this can be hugely useful.

I saw Dorian recently was assigned Plank Switches as part of the path towards HS Walk and if you follow his Instagram you’ll see he has no problem doing doing this at all :sweat_smile:

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I disagree. While I understand the idea of revisiting easier versions of exercises for warm-up or recovery, I think the way it’s implemented in the app is not ideal.

For example, let’s say I’ve been consistently doing pike, sphinx, decline, spiderman and archer pushups for months.

  • What would make sense: Occasionally assigning regular pushups and mixing them with these variations.
  • What doesn’t make sense: Only assigning knee pushups for multiple consecutive sessions while not giving me any other variations.

This is exactly what’s happening in the app, and it feels like a big step backward rather than a structured progression.

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But these things don’t happen. If you’ve recently done these exercises as part of a Skill Path recently, you won’t suddenly be assigned Knee Paths for the same path.

If it has happened, I’d like to know where so we can look in to it.

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Not sure what constitutes a skill path. In Skill Progressions, the pushup progression has only knee pushups and pushups, and there is no progression for the other variations. Or perhaps skill paths is something built into the app that we don’t see.

This happened to me when I started the Explosive Calisthenics journey. It was giving me knee pushups and I had been logging regular pushups by myself. I now started getting regular pushups from coach (still not others), I am in the middle of the journey.

Also, to your point of this not happening, I think the same is actually happening to uwwo.

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No, what is happening here would be expected. If you haven’t worked on a skill for while, we absolutely would expect the Coach to cycle around.

I’ll give 2 scenarios:

  1. I start a new Training Journey that incorporates Skill Progressions. I haven’t worked on any Skills for 3 months. The Coach is likely to cycle through some skills that I have previously completed.
  2. I am on a current Training Journey and just completed the Pushup Skill Path. The Coach will not start to assign me Knee pushups as part of that path.

On a note, if you don’t want to work on a Skill, just make sure you have selected the skills that you do want to work on.

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Also, just for info, the full Skill Progression path for Pushups consists of Knee Pushups, Negative Pushups and Pushups :+1:

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Hey Sofia and Ben,

thanks for your answers. I fully understand that recylcing certain skills is helpful to exercise skills and focus on technique. However, I would expect that such a recycling would come with more reps and not two and four as has recently happened to me. I would expect a number of reps anywhere between 10 and 20 so that technique can really be focussed on, which is why I was surprised.

Cheers,

Uwe

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@Ben thank you for trying to clarify this for me. I feel silly, but I don’t understand

  • What constitutes “working on a skill”.
  • Whether skill progressions are important when we talk about all the kinds of pushups that I mentioned (diamond, archer, decline, etc.) - they are not shown in the pushups skill progressions in the app.
  • Say for a couple of months I regularly log all these advanced pushups but without doing coach journey - is this perhaps not counted?

I feel like there’s some internal logic that I am trying to understand here that didn’t adapt well to my real-life use of the app.

I’ll recap my case

  • have been doing advanced pushups and working out with the app for years
  • all skill progressions always enabled
  • in the 2nd half of 2024 I worked out with the app logging advanced pushups but not with Coach
  • started Explosive Calisthenics and started getting knee pushups all the time
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@uwwo which Journey are you on?

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Hey @Sofia , I’m on Explosive Calisthenics as well at the moment, but I have had that feeling in other journeys as well.

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@Ben is it worth checking if something might be wrong in the Explocive Calisthenic Journey?

I know @uwwo said about noticing this before, and I noticed this before as well, but never on this scale - never jumping from complex to knee pushups for many consecutive sessions.

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@Sofia Can you share with me a time this happened to you?

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