MAX workouts please return us the ability to perform them like PUSHUP MAX and PULLUP MAX

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Hell Freeletics Team,

Please return us ability to perform MAX workouts. MAX workouts were your exclusive and innovative feature in the beginning and regular 25-50-100 reps cannot replace them.

MAX workouts force you to constantly increase the number of repetitions and beat your previous PBs.

They are also great to get a habit to exercise regularly because you can do them even if you have only 2-5 minutes on a day

They are very great way to go fast from zero level to your full god workouts.

Examples

Pushup Max - as many repetitions as possible for 100 sec
Squat Max - as many repetitions as possible for 300 sec
Pullup Max (100 sec)
Burpee Max (300 sec)
Jackknife Max (100 sec)
HS Pushup Max (100 sec)
Leg Lever Max (300 sec)
Split Lunge Max (300 sec)
Jump Max (300 sec)
Situp Max (300 sec)

Your trial week before also consisted of 4 days of MAX workouts and Aphrodite in the end.

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Let’s go back to Basics! Freeletics app was great and very effective in the beginning. Unfortunately I cannot say that for the current version.

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YES! This would be amazing! I test my 5 minute burpee max every once in a while and see it as the most consistent way that I track my fitness. I would love to see these come back in the app! I would also like to see time options that go beyond the original MAX workouts. Like we can with reps on single exercises, being able to choose 10s, 30s, 1m, 3m, 5m, 10m on the MAX workouts would be really nice.

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My first trial week after registration looked like this

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Agree, it would be great to have the ability to change original MAX workout time.
But I hope they at least simply return what they already had once. I have been using a third party timer for several years for MAX workouts now.

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Is anybody know or remember what MAX workout actually is? Looks like it was so long ago that only few active members left who actually remember :slight_smile:

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I remember them but I do not see the necessary of having them back. :person_shrugging:

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But founder of Freeletics, Joshua, thought they are very effective and he was doing them regularly, almost every day at the start

I also think that they were the best and most effective way to get in shape.

Photo of Joshua from those times

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Yeah - And yet the MAX Workouts were kicked out of the coach even before the founders left.

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Yes, but because MAXes are very effective for athletes but not effective for monetization of the app.

The most effective and the best program Freeletics ever created is not selling anymore. Because Coach subscription is generating more income for the business

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The argument with monetisation is nonsense, because MAX Workouts could still be part of the Coach, which is only available for paying customers. That is certainly not the reason why MAX Workouts no longer exist.

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And what is the reason? You do not know it. Maybe there is no reason from effectiveness point of view. Just wanted to do everything in one line and make classic repetition exercises and it was easy to for programers to just cut them off.

But current function is the worst on the market.
You cannot even input an exact number, for example 75, or 200, or 55.

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And you also don’t know it but claimed the monetisation as reason. :wink:

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Yes, but I definitely know that MAXes are very effective, and founder of Freeletis also thought so, that’s why he included them into the most effective products of Freeletics, their first guides.

The similar effective principle used in CrossFit workouts, named AMRAP

And if you so unaware and unprofessional in fitness sphere that you even don’t know that and do not understand their obvious effectiveness. Please don’t SPAM here anymore

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Hi @anon26868185. MAX workouts are effective when you don’t have a lot of time and only want to do a few different movements like pushups/sit-ups/squats/pullups. Also doing them often like a few times a week is not necessarily super effective as you don’t allow your muscles to recover enough and it puts a lot of strains on your joints and tendons, especially if you go quite high in the numbers.
Higher volume is effective but diversity of movements and complexity of movements is even better. For pushup MAX for example, your chest would work harder in less time if you were to do spiderman pushups or archer pushups or single arm pushup, with less reps and thus less prone to injuries as well.

Although, it is quite good to test your level of fitness and see improvement. You can definitely set a single exercise to 2,000 reps and see how far you can go! or do an 15 AMRAP from the explore tab. All 15 minutes workouts are AMRAP.

I guess MAXes were popular at the beginning because the pool of exercises wasn’t as big as it is now. Also, as a bodyweight program, people start off at a different level, your MAX pushup can be 100 but for me, it could be 10. Hence why the MAX workout were popular. For a “standard” [roduct to be effective for everyone, you cannot say “do 5 sets of 20 pushups” because for some it is not enough and for others way too much. MAXes enabled everyone to go to failure and thus be effective. It is a different story now with AI-based progression and diversity of complex movements.

I hope that helps!

Cheers,
Tom

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If simplify - another incompetent answer

“Also doing them often like a few times a week is not necessarily super effective as you don’t allow your muscles to recover enough and it puts a lot of strains on your joints and tendons, especially if you go quite high in the numbers.”

The same applies to any Freeletics workout

“Higher volume is effective but diversity of movements and complexity of movements is even better. For pushup MAX for example, your chest would work harder in less time if you were to do spiderman pushups or archer pushups or single arm pushup, with less reps and thus less prone to injuries as well.”

Why are you focusing on a chest? I suggest to return not only classic pushups but to make it for any exercise.
**So do “Spiderman Pushup MAX” and then “One Hand Pushup Max” **
It will be great

“Although, it is quite good to test your level of fitness and see improvement. You can definitely set a single exercise to 2,000 reps and see how far you can go! or do an 15 AMRAP from the explore tab. All 15 minutes workouts are AMRAP.”

Here when incompetence or misunderstanding goes in
1) Any AMRAP consisted of several exercises is less effective than AMRAP of one exercise to get from ZERO level to STARRED POSEIDON.
2) What if I have no 15 minutes? And it will not be the same as I said above
3) 2000 reps is not the same totally

"I guess MAXes were popular at the beginning because the pool of exercises wasn’t as big as it is now. "

I guess MAXes were popular at the beginning because they were effective and even founder of Freeletics was doing them several times a week. The exercise base was enough to get into perfect shape. We had Pistol Squats, One Hand Pushups, Handstand Pushups, MuscleUps etc etc

“Also, as a bodyweight program, people start off at a different level, your MAX pushup can be 100 but for me, it could be 10. Hence why the MAX workout were popular. For a “standard” product to be effective for everyone, you cannot say “do 5 sets of 20 pushups” because for some it is not enough and for others way too much. MAXes enabled everyone to go to failure and thus be effective. It is a different story now with AI-based progression and diversity of complex movements.”

And this is why they are so effective, you can go from ZERO to HERO doing POSEIDON with no time.
No exercise or workout from current exercise base will get you from ZERO to STARRED POSEIDON faster than MAXes

But yeah, this is not profitable for business, it would be ideal if everybody pay subscriptions forever

"I hope that helps!

Cheers,
Tom"

I hope this helps
Cheers
Enri